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Economic collapse. Peak oil. Population spikes followed by immediate drops. Survival in a world without oil. Have you guys seen this documentary? It's on instant netflix, or all parts (1-9) can be watched on youtube. I'd love a discussion on this. This documentary is LOADED but it hits on a lot of things I've been thinking about lately. Honestly, it makes me depressed, but should we continue to ignore the warnings? Should we get prepared? Is this guy just a conspiracy theorist alarmist? Here's a couple of clips from it:


Mar. 14th, 2011 03:11 pm (UTC)
I do think he assumes impending doom and complete loss of technological advances from the last 100 years if oil is to deplete.

As far as seeing oil prices soar over the last few years with no collapse following, I guess it depends on what we define as "soaring" like going from 2.30 and gallon to 4.10 like it did in 2008, which is still within a relatively affordable range, or seeing it go to 25.00 a gallon. That would have a much harder impact than what we've seen so far.

What I don't understand is how he could ignore other possibilities to harvest bio-diesel, like creating technology in tractors so that they run on solar power to harvest these crops.

I don't like "conspiracy theorist" either, it's just what he's been called.

What I think he is most concerned with is the exponential population spike since the 19th century, which he credits almost entirely on oil due to the 96% correlation between use of oil and the population increase. Because the trend has always been "what goes up must come down" in population spikes (or spikes in anything, really), he thinks the population is doomed to drop 90% eventually, because "it's math."

As far as subsidies go, yeah, I'm aware. I feel what the people want (investing in new alternative energy technologies) and what the people get are two completely unrelated things. The politicians here are more than happy to let these huge corporations control what gets invested in (their product) as long as they take care of the politicians and their families financially. We are completely under the thumb of these corps and because we are a "free country", they will continue to donate to politicians to make sure it stays that way for as long as possible.
Mar. 14th, 2011 07:45 pm (UTC)
The thing is that we saw oil prices tripling during a small period of time, which is the sort of thing that can lead to the collapse. A tenfold increase that takes a century to take place is likely not gonna have a huge impact on the rest of the economy, it will just drag out the substitutes to completely replace oil over time.

Tractors don't even need to run on solar power, they can already run on bio-diesel with no new technology needed.

The population spike thing is exactly the sort of thing that can come from perfect math based on completely false axioms and therefore have no validity whatsoever. If he is able to explain why it has to happen and then show the evidence supporting this explanation, then I'll take a look at it, but just saying "I think it will happen because it has happened before" does not qualify as science. :|